OCP Workshop 11/28/2012

• Ron:  reminds us how last week went and that we ended by wanting to identify some of the teams we might have
• Peter:  last week, we haven’t officially decided to have teams
• Ron:  we do have a definition and a way for them to exist, so it seems that they can exist
• Peter:  just adding that this was an issue that came up, it might be hard to clarify
• Mark:  found it awkward and inappropriate to be talking about teams and the way that we were talking about what they might do, without having decided if teams are something we are actually going to do;  
• Matt: kind of lost;  trying to understand if it is weird that we are discussing teams without knowing whether or not we are going to have them
• Ron:  we had a list of things on the board that shows what a person might need to do to become a member;  there were things that we talked about but didn’t have consensus on some of them – teams;  the ones that we had consensus on are on a list as requirements for someone to be a member;  what makes the topic of teams a little confusing is that we have not yet reached consensus about having teams or not;  we could go to the deliverable about having teams or not and then come back
• Matt:  shouldn’t we stick to the idea that we should have a vote before discussing things
• Mike:  we do have teams;  one that is functioning now, if we want to go there, we would be talking about reviving teams;
• Ron:  no one has given us a game plan for these discussions – we are trying to find out way – we might get to a spot and figure out we need to change direction or move on to a different idea;  because teams are a deliverable, lets pause and have the discussion about whether to make them official;
• Matt:  never a concern for matt about having a kitchen team for Sadie, but is wondering if the discussion is about adding more teams;  do we want to add more teams that could help ocp?;  
• Ron:  right now, teams are only the responsibility of the staff;  if we decide to have teams as a membership, it would be on the membership to help deal with and run
• Mike: proposal: We commit to developing teams as an essential force in the operation of OCP. – Seconded by Matt
• Ron:  thinks he could get behind it, but the language puts teams in a sort of central place for ocp;  seems like it is important for ocp, but the language is somewhat strong
• Mike:  we could cut a few words out to make the language not so strong;  
• Matt:  seems like we shouldn’t focus on the words so much because we did go back on using the word membership
• Ron:  the word essential means we couldn’t live without teams, and we probably can live without them;  more comfortable if the language wasn’t so strong
• Matt:  likes the language/idea
• James:  when the word expanding is used, it seems like there are already essential teams, sounds like we would add more in order to get more volunteers involved;  
• Ron:  wonder about developing – committing to developing teams as an essential force – they aren’t that well developed – one that currently works;  
• Matt:  likes that volunteers could be assigned to a team in order to get work done
• Daniel:  likes the essential language – when ocp has an issue, we look to teams to be the core of how to deal with issues;
• Mike:  changed the word from fundamental to essential because the words are important;  started out by saying developing which is the word ron used;  seems like we are close to getting something;  we do have a definition of teams already;  do we need to put that definition in this proposal
• Heather:  wouldn’t it be nice if we had some teams that could take some stress away from Ron;  Philip and Ron answer a lot of questions – teams could help with this
• Matt:  thinks we should change some of the words that we are uncomfortable with and then go ahead and vote;
• Ron:  ron is very much in support of teams – thinks it would be great if we had teams up and running – this would help create opportunities for people who want to do things around here;  seems like ron’s stress comes from inside himself, and teams probably wont help
• Philip:  seems like teams might help and would help have people that could be trusted to get various things done around ocp;  seems like we the definition of teams would be connected to this proposal if we officially sanction teams
• Khaleel:  might be nice to have a team help sell wreathes when we need help;  we don’t have a clear structure right now about how to implement teams;  a proposal about a certain number of hours might relate to how to get people to volunteer;  maybe there is a sub-team that just looks for volunteers to help sell wreaths
• Voting:  9 in favor, 1 opposed, 1 abstain;  motion carries – no does not want to block
• Matt:  wonders why people wouldn’t vote for;  would like to know why mark votes no;  
• Mark:  teams have been talked about a lot – where are all these people to be on teams going to come from;  concept sounds good on paper;  understands that nothing here is written in stone, but doesn’t want to go along if he doesn’t feel like it is going to work;  going to have the same core group of people who are going to do the work;  
• Ron:  loves the ability we have for people to disagree
• Peter:  thanks Matt for requesting people to talk – just didn’t want to vote
• Ron:  we are in the middle of a discussion about volunteer hours – the vibe from the group has been to get away from setting a number of hours – members are people who volunteer at OCP – have a spirit of volunteerism;  another direction is that members have a spirit of volunteerism and are a member of a team;  
• Matt:  thinks we should call it a day after this proposal has passed and then think about the direction we should move forward with;  we shouldn’t be hasty before making proposals
• Gary:  wonders how someone could be a member and have a vote if they cant be here a lot during the day;  
• Ron:  there was a lot of talk about having the word “participates” included in a proposal about volunteering;  as we are developing the membership, we are thinking about those who cant make it very much during the day;  this is a think-tank, and membership is one way;  
• Matt:  proposes we stop the meeting early, and heather seconds – all in favor