Wednesday, December 5, 2012

OCP Workshop 12/05/2012

  •    Ron:  we are currently in the middle of a discussion about membership and what it looks like
  • Teams Discussion
  •           Mike:  sensing that we ought to put some names to some teams – hoping we can get to that – do think we need to be careful how we name them
  •           Mike:  the rationale behind creating some teams is that if we are making it a central part of OCP, we should have a couple named;  maybe we can take some suggestions – read our old list;  probably in 10 or 15 minutes, we could come up with a couple of teams with adequate names
  •           Daniel:  has an idea for three core teams that have worked at other community center type places:  1. Maintenance/Grounds, 2. Clerical/Administration/Program Development, 3. Kitchen
  •           Mike:  this seems like a good start, but it seems like programming might be in its own world
  •           Ron:  wants to add that programming is a lot for day to day stuff, but then the execution of programming is more like promotions – does promotions overlap events?  Or is there an event team
  •           Daniel:  ok with the list and wonders if we could have an events/promotions team – this team will probably have impact on all of the other teams;  maybe events/promotions could be a fourth team
  •           Zach:  feel like we should develop a set number of teams so we have somewhere to grow to;  then we can decide what core groups we have
  •           Ron:  at OCP, it seems like clerical/administration is almost completely taken care of by the staff;  what does this team do in other places
  •           Daniel:  answer phones, get mail organized;  maybe there isn’t that much in this category at OCP;
  •           Mike:  years ago, staff could be a part of the clerical team but others could also be part of this group as volunteers – not sure if we need a core number of teams, but what if we come up with 3-5 right now, and then we have a team that just captures all the other needs, that might cover us
  •           Ron:  worried that we are forgetting a major issue
  •           Philip:  thinks we should leave out clerical/admin for now and have maint/grounds, kitchen, programming;  what is volunteers?
  •           Ron:  likes those main three, and we have a lot of volunteers, and if a team could help with this, that could be great;  sanitation and spiritual and recovery seem like big ones too
  •           Daniel:  feeling like clerical/admin would also include programming;  does think clerical/admin is important – what is this if we don’t call it that;  maybe some of this work could fall under volunteers;  clerical/admin would come out of programming – getting at the implementation;  technology could fall under maintenance and grounds;  spiritual/recovery – this is sort of included in everything;  seems like we are splitting this up in to too many teams;  seems like 5 or less teams otherwise there will only be one person on each team;  we should have sub-categories for each of the main categories;  governance is a tricky one; 
  •           Mike:  on boiling down – if we take the ones that are irreducible, spiritual/recovery can’t really fit under another category but does seem like a big part;  sanitation is very key but could go under maintenance;  services is huge – could be the volunteer catch-all category – it is always expanding;  not seeing outreach as a separate thing – maybe this comes under spiritual because it sounds churchy; 
  •           Philip:  likes combining services with hospitality;  was thinking about putting spiritual/recovery under programming since all programming should include that – maybe even if programming wasn’t happening, there could be spiritual/recovery
  •           Ron:  teams are not made of members only and this group is not the membership – but some people hate meetings and don’t come but do a lot around OCP – would probably be thrilled to be on a team;  between volunteers from the outside world and people who don’t like meetings, there could be a lot of people on these teams;  volunteer coordination is a big topic – we plug people into teams, we find out people’s gifts, and get them involved;  volunteers are a huge resource and there are always a lot;  seems like we have to always be focused on spiritual/recovery
  •           Daniel:  still doesn’t seem like we have that many people to be on teams;  really feels like clerical/admin is very important if others can get behind it;  spiritual/recovery should be a part of everything – what would this team actually do that doesn’t fall under the other categories?;  seems like there should be a team dedicated to leg-work of programming and helping with staff tasks;
  •           Mike:  sounds like we are getting close on some kind of consensus;  seems like there is a lot for spiritual/recovery;  seems like spiritual/recovery could be something;  seems like we could call volunteer/community services; 
  •           Philip:  more than seven people involved in this meeting right now than seven; 
  •           Ron:  the big three:  maintenance/grounds, kitchen, and programming seem like survival teams and maybe we could start with these;  we could seemingly have good leadership for these initial three
  •           Mike:  seems like Philip was trying to counterbalance the thought that there are only a few of us sitting around now;  would be optimistic about the number of people regularly volunteering now;  could get behind the spiritual/recovery work that is already being done;  some people might not fit into the big three;  “services” could meet some real key needs and could be a place to have other volunteers plug in à we need people to come up with the services that our community needs
  •           Ron:  if we had leadership and creativity, we could have 30 people here right now;  seems like we need a good infrastructure – three seems nice;  volunteers and donations are a huge piece of OCP that doesn’t have a good infrastructure right now
  •           Daniel:  how many people are there that really have a sense of where things are and where to go to get things – there are not that many of people in that group;  these people will be the foundation of these teams;  there is always stuff that doesn’t fit somewhere else – the idea that we have a fourth team that is kind of a catch-all – like a trash drawer; 
  •           Seems like we are settling in around:  1. Maintenance/Grounds, 2. Kitchen, 3. Programming, 4. Volunteers/Services
  •           Philip:  seems like having a fourth category is helpful
  •           Ron:  one of our purposes – to be a resource for other services in the community – this could fit under;  wants to make a small speech for comeback of spiritual/recovery – there are a few people who ron can think of that could be interested in such a group that ron could give leadership to – the team would think about what people’s needs are in this category – to make this a small category is like what we do in life with making our spiritual life small – we need to make it the center – instead of making the programming of bands, events, etc as being the main thing; 
  •           Daniel BK:  what are we trying to do and wanting to do – do these teams fit into our purposes – would separate volunteers and services – services are something we are trying to do and having a bunch of people who want to help is different
  •           Mike:  not going to be a lack of leadership with spiritual/recovery;  could we call the fourth a “community service team” – shelter, food, clothing could fall under this; 
  •           Daniel:  spiritual/recovery is a part of daniel’s whole life, so how can we make it separate on our list;  it is a part of everything we do; 
  •           Sadie:  agrees with Daniel BK, we shouldn’t call something a community service team – someone coming from the courts should not be allowed to count their work as volunteer hours
  •           Philip:  doesn’t like the name of community service for a team
  •           Daniel:  volunteer team is thinking about volunteers and services team is thinking about helping someone find a place to live; 
  •           Ron:  thinks volunteers and service are very different and maybe both should be teams;  spirituality and recovery are not on Ron’s mind all the time, so having a team to focus on this and keep it one of our focuses seems very important; 
  •           Alex:  agrees with the idea that the spiritual/recovery team is important – just because it has influence on all the other teams doesn’t mean it shouldn’t have its own team;
  •           Mike:  thinks we should wait on a vote in order to think some more – save it until next week
  •           Ron:  we aren’t starting this tomorrow – we are developing this for the membership;  the membership might not actually start for months;  we should have a vision and maybe have 5-6 teams so we are looking forward to what we want ocp to look like;
  •           Daniel:  maybe spiritual/recovery could fall under programming and we could have only four major groupings to keep things orderly

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