Wednesday, May 29, 2013

OCP Workshop 05/29/2013

Chris:  what about an elitist feel with the membership, but if anyone can attend meetings
Ron:  Early Church has a membership and although anyone can come to meetings, only members have a vote;  like the idea of the membership honoring those people who are interested in running the place;  looking towards the future, the membership could be some sort of filter for things – ie.  Housing or jobs – you couldn’t just walk in off the street and be part of the housing scene;  maybe jobs would be the kind of thing that would be available to members;  the membership can help implement new ideas – the membership could discuss ideas and then help come up with a plan;  
Shinea:  agree with the membership idea – if you are coming off the streets, you should be able to come here and learn and maybe you would want to become a member;  never really wanted to be a member, but recently, life changes have made me feel like I might want to be a member;  
Ron:  we did have community meetings once a week, and people did come and participate – now, people would probably respond better to a weekly meeting;  membership meetings will be at least once monthly – sometimes someone has to come in front of the community for some rule infraction, and it was always valuable to have the whole community there;  mind continues to be confused about a time – mark works at night, others work during the day – do we do our best to talk with our bosses to try and get some time off so that we can attend;  a quorum of 51% needs to attend for meetings to happen – members would try to the best of their abilities to attend meetings;  seems like everyone needs to participate or just the staff
Chris:  if it is important enough to the people who want to be members, it seems like most jobs could work around a schedule with enough advance warning – barring a family emergency or a job that wouldn’t let you leave;  we gave our word to be here, so we did come even though we will have to leave early
Ron:  is there a magic time that might work for most people – Sunday evenings?;  some jobs won’t give you an evening off;  
Jonathan:  wondering about making a proposal about monthly membership meetings and members are strongly encouraged to attend;  
Mark:  if we are talking about meetings attendance, lets just start somewhere – monthly sounds good;  
Ron:  we are trying to figure out what it means that members are supposed to attend three meetings;  what about “members will try in earnest to attend membership meetings”;  someone like roger is here every day and works all day but will not attend meetings – what do you do about this?;  like that we are backing off being legalistic about people coming to membership meetings;  time and date might be something for the initial membership to deal with
Jonathan:  “Membership meetings will be at least monthly, and all members are strongly encouraged to attend.”;  seconded by Sadie;  9 for – 0 opposed
Ron:  seems like we want trial members show up to membership meetings during their trial period
Shinea:  if you aren’t a member, people shouldn’t be able to use and abuse OCP;  all the people that don’t have any place to go should do something here;  
Ron:  a point of clarification – so far, we have never said that someone would have to be a member or trial period to be at OCP;  most people are still interested in OCP being an outreach to people who have nowhere to be and no interest of getting involved;  a lot of people have been through a lot and might need time just to be here before thinking about becoming a member;  would like us to have some sort of radical generosity but those that are plugging in will be able to have more decision making power;  having time at ocp that is just open to members could be something we decide
Shinea:  if you are going to come to OCP, you should at least show appreciation somehow – try to help do something – anything;  ocp could suffer from people not having their minds right where they need to be;
Michelle:  from my own experience, there have been times when I came just because I needed to be with community, but I was not emotionally able to be helpful to anyone or anything;  I have watched people walk into this building who came unable to help but within 6 months, came to a place to be able to help;  some people are aware of whats going on, but they do not want to have to come to a meeting or feel like it is a job and not just for fun;  over the years, I have gone from one extreme to the other;  the last couple years have been constant turmoil;  

Chris:  if you look at an AA meeting, so people come just to draw strength from the circle but might not feel like talking;  some young guys started coming to OCP and were interested in lots of other things, but many have come around to being with their families;  

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