- Some things left over from last time: the idea of a comprehensive orientation for new ocp members, new board members, new staff members; another discussion was about people in jail or people who have been kicked out of OCP; other items left to discuss
- How do you lose your membership status? What about people in jail?
- How do people get things onto the agenda
- What about goveranance
- Special “hard core volunteer” exception to initial member definition – ie. Skip, david alleman
- On the 17th, this will be the first real membership meeting and we can discuss when and where we would like to meet; we will also probably work on establishing teams;
- Ron: can a person currently incarcerated become an initial member – one example is Kris
- Ron: think we should allow it – this is a one time in history kind of thing
- Michelle: kris when he was here, he more than fulfilled his membership requirements; with the initial membership, seems fine
- Mat: agree
- Ron: if there are no objections, we can move on
- Mark: love kris too, but as far as being an initial member, if he becomes a member in name only, he won’t be part of meetings, discussions, no planning, no work of any kind
- Mat: understand Mark’s concern – if ron wrote kris and kris would want to be a part of the initial membership,
- Mark: if the membership takes a vote, will we wait to hear from Kris
- Ron: members who aren’t at a membership meeting wouldn’t have a vote later; the little grill came up with the idea of a “hiatus” so that someone could leave for some reason for up to one year and come back and still remain a member; if Kris comes back he could jump right in, and maybe it is just a way to reach out to someone – Kris
- Mat: don’t think we should spend too much time on this – we should first ask Kris if he is even interested
- Ron: if he can’t be a member, don’t even want to ask him;
- Mat: agree with Jonathan – write him a letter, find out what he wants, and then we can decide what to do; kris will consider that he hasn’t been around, coming to meetings
- Michelle: where is Kris –(ohio)
- Jonathan: motion to offer Kris Elzey membership if he is interested; seconded by Michelle – unanimous vote for
- Ron: what about the hard core volunteer exception
- Mark: david alleman, john rust should be allowed to be members
- Ron: maybe Roger Thompson too; the membership is different from the Friends group and these people might want to be members
- Michelle: skip too; has done so much for OCP – went to the farm and did a lot there; he is out in the county now and can’t always be here
- Ron: yesterday talking with David Alleman expressed interest in the membership but couldn’t be here on Wednesday morning. Other examples – former board members, long-term supports/mentors who can’t be here on Wednesdays
- Michelle: kind of agree with Jonathan
- How does a person lose membership status?
- Jonathan: membership should decide this
- Governance and getting things on an agenda
- Ron: the membership could develop these things, but maybe we should give it some thought – would be have a president, vice president; who takes minutes; along the lines of having the meetings when we are closed, no microphones, no one walking in and out making random comments
- Anna: think it would be a good idea – how to get things on the agenda, governance – the membership meeting could talk about these things, but it would be nice to know some of these answers at the first membership meeting;
- Michelle: thinking that relying on Ron leading meetings and Jonathan taking minutes, we should just start this way; like the idea of finding a central spot at OCP and using the internet as a way for people to keep up with what is going on;
- Ron: thinking about how a lot of organizations start and you just pick some initial people and then the first order of business is to elect new board members – see the argument for continuing on with what we have, but we could talk about if we want to have a president – a presider – been involved with groups having a rotating presider, but don’t like this style – seems like we need to have people who are good at presiding, but we could have room for people to be trained to preside – maybe our goal would be to elect a president, vice president, and secretary and think about how long terms might be – we could work some of these things out now so the first membership meeting wouldn’t have to be so boring
- Michelle: maybe we could hash that out over the next few weeks; in three weeks, we could probably come up with a plan; do like the idea of knowing ahead of time what is going to happen; people on the OCP board were initially given amounts of time that they would serve – think it is easier if we start with a plan in the beginning;
- Michael: to get something on the agenda, would it involve making motions
- Ron: the workshops have been really geared towards the workshop deliverables; along the way, there have been lots of ideas – like being open on Friday or a dance night – how do ideas get out there – to the membership; if a group doesn’t know what to do with an idea or a complaint, people begin to do subversive things to get power – if it is clear what people do with ideas of complaints, the group can be a good functioning group; we could let membership figure out some of these things, we could make some suggestions over the next few weeks to establish some beginning place;
- Michelle: don’t see very clearly the difference between working on something here and then working on something with the membership; coming in on July 17th with no plan, no one taking minutes, no one leading doesn’t make much sense – think we should figure out exactly who is going to be in charge on the 17th
- Sadie: agree with Michelle that there should be established who is in charge when we begin
- Jonathan: would like to make sure we talk about a way for the initial membership to vote – using the next few Friends meetings to talk about this, governance, and agenda issues
Wednesday, June 26, 2013
OCP Workshop 06/26/2013
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